LONG ARMS IN COLLIDING GALAXIES       A simple elegant explanation - despite seeming contradictory clues - seems   to account for everything regards long antenna arms in colliding galaxies -   try galactic cometary tails STRONG GALACTIC 'SOLAR WINDS' MAY BE THE CAUSE OF LONG ANTENNA ARMS INITIATING LONG DISTANCES FROM GALAXIES IN COLLIDING SITUATIONS Discussion about long antenna arms, galaxies merging or colliding flow through each other slowly, even at the speed of light (an impossible velocity) collision pace is an awesomely slow 4 years just to proceed creeping at a snail's pace past the next star At this incredibly slow pace, how can antenna arms form at such long distances out from those two stars passing each other every four years if the collision is occuring at the impossible speed of light. Collision speeds are much slower by orders of magnetude Long time lines such as the cigar galaxy M82 colliding with Bodes galaxy M81, the slide through collision said to have happened 750 million years ago, seem counter intuitive but not when concidering the time lines of just two of the billions of stars passing each other, at the speed of light Some other force is being picked up, sensed, in first contact. IN WHICH CASE THE LONG ARMS ARE NOTHING MORE MYSTERIOUS THAN COMETARY TAILS BEING BLOWN INTO EXISTENCE BACKWARD AWAY, BY INTENSE GALACTIC SOLAR WINDS, SUCH AS SEEN IN COMETS INCOMING AROUND STARS SUCH AS THE SUN In the case of galaxy long arm cometary tails, the tails manifest along a galaxy's path of motion, rather than straight away from the source of the creating winds such as is seen in comets in the solar system whose tails are constantly being blown directly outward from the Sun, regardless of comet position. In galaxy cometary tails, the tails seem to fall along a galaxy's path of motion. Tails also seem to later wind up, like clocksprings For example, two long tails in the 'Mice' colliding galaxies each initiating at long distances from current galaxy positions, in the example (click on 'mice') both tails extend beyond the borders of the Hubble Acs picture frame The length of a cometary wind tail does not necessarily tell us the extent of a galaxy's 'solar wind' in that the galaxies have moved along their 'tail paths' leaving the tail materials seeming somewhat stationary behind them, the tail material stalled by the galactic cometry wind's outpush This stationary conjecture may not be correct, but it is a start in logics to indepth the phenomena of galaxy cometary tails created by intense winds from certain galaxies, weak, or not there, from other galaxies colliding The Tadpole galaxies (next) show one with strong winds (right tail) the other with weak winds (faint short tails only, at the left Images of the Tadpole, officially named Arp 188, are not forthcoming on the internet. The side box view from an Arp site is too poor in resolution to show the extra cometary arms such as shown immediately above Hubble's Acs Tadople view is displayed in an earlier study in the Hubble1.htm page Some galaxy tails initiate with a plouph (explosion) when an incoming galaxy first encounters the other galaxy's cometry wind. Two examples of explosion at the wind barrier are seen, one in Arp 102, the other in the Antenna galaxies Ngc 4038-39 A plouph (explosion) at the end of the right arm in Ngc 6872 The small plouph (pronounced pluff) seen initiating the start of the right long arm in colliding galaxies Ngc 6872, is complex, not simple THE MICE Two long antenna arms both extending off frame, the left cometary tail not seen in the Hubble Acs original. Holy Smoke! do you think the tails are being formed by strong 'solar winds' from the galaxies. If either has stupendous winds analagous to solar winds from a star such as the Sun, the long antenna arms are then comet tail formations starting from long distances away before collision or encounter Full scale view of the Mice (officially named Ngc 4676) image from Noao. Besides diffuse dim sundry natter around the two 'mice' there seens (in this very blurry Noao image) a plouph at the end of the left arm where (if a plouph) the galactic cometary wind made first contact with the other galaxy incoming at higher velocity (assumed incoming faster because it has a longer arm). A second conjecture (we can infer) is the left galaxy is winding clockwise at a far higher speed than is the right galaxy's rotation, unless the right galaxy is rotating on a horizontal axis in which case we will not see be able to see its winding up like a clockspring Or else, a stronger galactic cometary wind from the left hand galaxy has reached out further to make first contact at the wind barrier with the other (right hand) incoming galaxy Although we do have one example of a partially reliable indicator of distance out for a galaxy cometary wind - this is seen in Ngc 1512 where a fast travelling incoming small galaxy has flamed on from a forward position, and continued to arc around behind Ngc 1512 coming on around from the left to a close position travelling forward, in the lower right The arc left by the cometary tail is an indication, except, expect the larger galaxy to have moved from point of first encounter with the smaller galaxy (flame on point) so that the cometary galactic tail may be also extending along the large galaxy's path of motion Twists and shifts in the comet tail of solar comet Ikeya-Zhang illustrate how irregularities in galaxy comet-tail long arms can manifest Undulating drifts of sundry matter with Andromeda in view were captured in this cometary view. Regular deep space information around Andromeda is suspected from several other Andromeda views Is that imagination, or is the comet creating a vertical light halo at its head end, if so, we need to know more about behaviors of light in strong ultra cold deep space vacumns, or, how strong light against none creates image illusions in camera imaging processes

A lingering mystery persists as to how some colliders have no tails, others do, sometimes only one tail, or residual weak secondary galaxy tail. It is possible that some galaxies have weak solar winds. This can suggest why one galaxy a longarm cometary tail the other hardly any.

The second route through the mystery is polarity, if two similarly charged galaxies start to meet long distance mutual resistence could cause loosely bound diffuse matter to strew away in opposite directions from identical charged bodies.



When each galaxy has an opposite electrical charge then matter is even more attracted to the bodies with no cometary tails in result. Galaxies Ngc 5426 above are a good example, no cometary tails of any kind are indicated.

Stretching is seen as an obvious collision feature in the
colliding pair above named Ngc 5426.

STRETCHING (FOR A SHORT LENGTH) BETWEEN TWO FLYING DECKS OF THE TADPOLE



These galaxies have a stretched arm, which seem common enough. Other examples of stretched connects are seen in Stephans Quintet, and the antenna galaxies Ngc 4038-39

STEPHANS QUINTET

A very diffuse pull between galaxies lower left and upper right. An abrupt elbow jog in the thin streamers does not have an immediate explanation. Why the abrupt deflection in angular vectors? No answer is given here.





As usual (immediately above) a more enhanced view shows more details,
at the expense of less 3d, which is why it is wise (for me) to show a lesser enhanced view where 3d features are more salient, to compare with a more enhanced viewed so that the salient 3d features are still understood in the more enhanced view. Savvy.

A LONG ARM BEING FORMED IN NGC 6745

From the 6745-1 page.

In contrary order, putting a tab in the mystery side of the cash register, a long arm seems to be in the process of formation by a small tad leaving a yo-yo creating dance with much bigger Ngc 6745.

This Ngc 6745 collision event shows a streaming crackling arm connected to the departing small galaxy that was cause of a new 'yo-yo' restructure of the large cigar shaped galaxy. It is possible this will not be a long arm rather a stretched arm between the two, for awhile.

AN ELBOW ARM (STRETCHED) IN NGC 4038



NGC 1409

Two broad hot star birth swaths ending in blunt ends, in Ngc 1409. The thin string running from the upper left galaxy through the larger lower right member has no instantly intuitive obvious explanation.





TADPOLE

This headshot of the Tadpole shows a lot of unilateral stretching between different flying decks. It also shows a solid dark band between the two bright hoola hoop rings, nothing is seen through this dark band indicating it is thick with non optically radiant material (solid).



TAPOLE - ONE LONG ANTENNA AND ONE HEAD (A YO-YO)

Original of the 'Tadpole' galaxy, captured by the Hubble Acs camera.



The tadpole head is dim in the original, only one disturbed galaxy is implied in the image.



Enhancement seems to suggest that two galaxies are layered, one over the other in approximate parallel planes separated.



The 'tadpole' seems to be two galaxies, one hovering over the other, the lower member brighter, it is the lower member which has the long antenna arm collision tail.

A pre-empting assumption is that one of the galaxies does not have a strong solar galactic wind.





Three other small 'antenna' long arms extend in different directions from the head, revealing this situation to be dramatically more complex.





An exceedingly rich rearspace teeming with small far distant galaxies has been captured in the Hubble Acs view of the Tadpole galaxy.





A spiral galaxy with a bent single long jet is singled out, from the greater rearspace cyclorama. This bent jet is featured in the Hubble1.htm page.



A LONG ARM LOOK AT NGC 6872

Click for Ngc 6872 original

Two long arms flare out from a colliding situation. How come. An answer is not immediately forthcoming. A long range reach is evident, what the long range reach is, in terms of invisible force, is hidden.

Well, that is not true at all. The whole opening sequence of this page deals with strong long distance galactic cometary winds, the 'hidden' element in the creation of long arms.









A histogram images reveals the full scale of diffuse dim matter surrounding the galaxies in total.



A pronounced elbow arm jog is seen. Elbow arms are commonplace in astronomy circumstances, in tympani resonators, and in the arms of galaxies, they can be pronounced in colliding situations. How come, or, rather, what causes such abrupt jogs. Notice the question remains dangling with no direct answer offered.

Tug from the small galaxy's gravity pulling free seems a cause, but this is not conclusive cause, because as this point we do not know the exact path the small galaxy has taken or is taking today as we see it.









A diffuse vertical band through the elbow arm shows something has moved through there, it cannot be said that it is the small galaxy, it cannot be said if the small galaxy is coming around forward in a tight arc after carving through the elbow arm. Better 3d is required to determine this. What went chugging through the elbow arm, is not self evident.

The virtual 3d is not very good in the next two images. It would be nice to be able to tell if the small galaxy is arcing into the foreground, or is behind the main display. Can't. Brrrr. If arcing into the foreground the likelyhood is high that it (the small galaxy) is responsible for the chug cleftiture through the elbow arm.

So I went the extra mile, went for the 110%, factored 3d views in extra numbers of width and hight, got better 3d, still cannot tell if the migit is in front.







I am placing bets that the chug is a patching error, notice the straight lines it means media is missing, if fully mediumized it is possible that region of the elbow arm will show no discontinuity, cancelling the concept that the migit galaxy has had anything to do with the elbow arm.

An abrupt jog in the path of Comet Linear was caused when Linear hit something invisible, probably an asteriod, which deflected its path in a telltale way



LONG ANTENNA ARMS IN GALAXY COLLISIONS

I wish to re-address the perplexing situation of long antenna arms forming in galaxy collisions, in some instances, not in other instances of collision. Further, instances are seen where only one not two long antenna arm has formed. Thirdly, some antenna form with an initial plouph, or explosion. Two examples are clearly seen. Fourth, no long arms are seen in many collisions

We do not see an impending collision with two tadpoles, for instance a situtation created by falsely gerry rigging an image of the Antenna colliding galaxies Ngc 4038-39. The heads and arms separated to form two tadpoles has not been seen.

Back to the mystery side of the coin, not seen (at least in images publically released to commoners) are two jets from galaxies approaching but not yet tangling. For instance no antenna situation such as faked in the following, with two heads, two tails, collision not yet underway. The second image is correct, the collision is underway at Ngc 4038-39.




Instances of drag are seen, where one is hauling charlie on another connected by a long integral arm. Two examples follow, the Whirlpool galaxy, and name unknown enhanced from a deep space view shown here







Two more Arps with long cometary tails, both from a new image by Hubble link at Apod Dec 9/2003.

ARP 81

Click for Hubble original

Slight enhancement







Major enhancement



Upon slight enhancement Arp81 above seems well wound up an original
long arm now sweeping around to the left, tightening like a clockspring. But, further enhancement shows a huge greater expanse, the seeming long arms (lower right and upper left) are leading edges of a great dim shelf strewn outward to the rear. The two leading edges may have once upon a time been a single or two long arms, but since them have been seriously disrupted by more interactions.



We know the material in the strew is not very dense because more distant galaxies can be seen, turned more yellow colored by the frequency altering hazes of the strew. Also interesting are a number of smaller blue objects peppering the rearscape, why so blue and not also frequency modified toward red or yellow.





I suspect the left galaxy was originally an elliptical, this would account for the wang band horizontally through its middle (thin curved horizontal 's' shaped line), in that elliptical galaxies or at least galaxies with noticable dome halos can have pronounced wangs warping their centerdisks.

ARP 295

Click for Hubble original

Some of the smaller objects seem to be streaming in rivers. See corollary page Rearwall.htm. Other smaller objects seem coherently necklaced. See corollary page Neckalce.htm

Two long thin tails, with a surprise in nearby proximity though not necessarily interactive a seeming small diffuse galaxy which has a large round halo the halo itself not strongly made of mass.











A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE

Searched the net for 'colliding galaxies' and found pages enough, almost all now dealing with collision simulations including a flood of different concepts regards Andromeda colliding with us (Milky Way) even software I could download today allowing me to make my own simulations of how galaxies collide. Isn't this far out. The few sites with links to actual images were all the same Hubbles, over and over again one linkclick after another, each, with a personal presenter's personal point of view or sales company, about the importance of the Hubble images or more, the importance of their site.

A couple of Arp sites turned up, each several clicks deep into the pages of Google, both had tiny photos from days of very old, none usuable except to identify an Arp's name. One Arp was used, Arp 188 above (weak black and white showing the Tadole's long arm to full length, this arrived in a reverse negative, and is a very small sized picture by any astronomy standards).

Books, plenty of them, for sale have your credit card ready for immediate number-give after you have filled your shopping cart. What on earth are these books ever going to teach me about colliding galaxies. A massive brainwash seems to have wiped the internet, wiping intelligence clean away so there isn't any.

Authorities are wondering why so many people are now not entering careers in science when entering universities. In some ways this is good better no Phd in galaxy engineering than yet another taxi driver with a Phd.

At the same time, I would every much like to see bright clear pristine colliding galaxy images from the new telescopes online after the new millinium and there are not any hardly at all, except a handful which I seem to have collected in full. See the colliding galaxies collide.htm page. Dec 6/2003.

For instance in view of plouphs which seem to iniitate at the very start of an encounter at a long distance away, and that many collisions do not have long arms or antennas, colliding galaxy simulations would be pointless, because they are inherently wrong, so no matter how brillient the computer codework, no matter how brillient the concepts conjectures and ideas, they are a waste of time.

All colliding simulations I saw in both stills and the few movies I tried, have reallllly long strings somewhere in the process, no such lonnnnng strings seen anywhere in heaven.

I remember when Apple clones first came out the brain race began individuals spending six even eight weeks programming their Apple to do a calculation only to then have to do the calculation by hand anyway to make sure the computer result was correct, and usually never was. But, it was a fad and only cutting edge users were there enough to be able to do what others could not - program their Apple.

I hope this does not earn me a reputation as a bobo or pea strainer.

SLOAN LONG ARM IMAGES

Galaxy long arms do not seem to be particularly abundant. In fact, rare with a capital R seems to be the motive operendi for them. A search for coliding galaxies, and Arp images yeilded ought new but where to use my credit card (do not have one I am free from the system) to obtain software to make my own colliding galaxy simulations, any way I want. Whohhhhh.

Two more long arms showed up in a complete cruise through Sloan image sites. Both images showed no trace of long arms until verrrrrrrrrry much enhanced. Sloan images tend to be faint anyway, so grainy is the result. I don't care, at least there are two more galaxies to add to the long arm collection.

Click for Ngc 5218 original
Click Click for Ngc 3535 original
Click Click for Ngc 4536 original

NGC 5812 BY SLOAN



NGC 3535-60 (TWO GALAXIES NAMED) BY SLOAN)



NGC 4536 BY SLOAN

If this started out with long arms, it was a long time ago the galaxy now having wound around enough to tighten the long arms in, like a two ended clockspring, if this is what has happened. If this is what has happened (long arms wound up) it can explain the plain fact that bar galaxies with long thin arms now wrapping around are commonplace.



A few more inserts to finish up the page (no where else in the enormous Cosmicastronomy.com site to easily put them).

A ring galaxy spotted by Sloan and noted specifically by Sloan astronomers (left image).



A ring like this looks familiar, one seems present in a Dss view of Ngc 4603 (right image).

The most famous ring, and only other one known apparently at this time, is the notorious Cartwheel, which has its own special detailing in the Cartwhl.htm page.

Long arms in the process of being wrapped, seen in a photo of Ngc 7479, downloaded from the Gendler site.

Click for Gendler Ngc 7479 original



Another from Gendler. If any one is struggling along with the concept that Ngc 6384 has only a few arms, they had better take a second look at the enhancement next.

Click for Gendler Ngc 6384 original



All of the Gendler originals explode with hidden content and arms when each image is enhanced, some of the galaxies have noticable gravity wells around them.

Here are a few more examples of exploded content.

M99 - a clockspring still winding up a long arm.

Click for Gendler M99 original



Click for Gendler M95 original



Click for Gendler M100 original



Moving on to the subject of supersize, a supersize view of M51 by Gendler - notice the darker areas in highlighted window - two curved areas of similar size and shape, this is   U n u s u a L   to say the least.

Click for Gendler M51 original





Zoom and histogram show major organizations within the dim media areas, meaning these areas have been caused by prior collisions or encounters.









Sloan m101 shows huge superstructure with more dim media arms not previously seen in standard M101 images, plus a much thicker arm flanking the left.

Click for Sloan M51 original





And finally, an anonomous small dark circular area in an Eso image which Eso simply calls 'The Strange Galaxy' - a dark area is noticable, nothing is indicated as to source or origin including if an image fault or something solid that does not glow in the frequencies used for the photograph. Half surrounding a bright foreground star does not necessarily cut it as to source cause in the image. Worth a second look, perhaps.

Click for Strange Galaxy original, with enhanced window.

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